Odds and ends 6
09/13/04
The MTA is backing down! It appears that we won, but I'm still concerned about the possibility of a partial ban.
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any idea what those red metal boxes with the flags on 'em are? There's one by the b'way/lafayette F/6 train downtown entrance. I've seen them elsewhere, too. They all appeared maybe 4-6 months ago at the same time.
Posted by: a fan at September 13, 2004 11:25 PM
a_fan, usually they are newspaper drop-off points. im extremely happy about the MTA backing off on its ban.
Posted by: longlivenyhc at September 14, 2004 06:25 AM
A partial ban is too nuanced for many of those who wear a badge or an orange vest. All they'll hear is "ban" and they'll keep harrassing anyone caught underground with a camera.
Posted by: Dietsch at September 14, 2004 08:01 AM
Mike, this is a very nice set of miscellany today. There's a lot to like: the chair arm had to be up, for instance, and it was... Yellow/gold tones in most of the set.
The yellow exterior is a wonderful find.
Posted by: Frank at September 14, 2004 08:10 AM
Dietsch, they harass people now, without any law at all. I've been detained despite having A COPY OF THE LAW WITH ME. We're living in a police state. Or perhaps a police city.
Posted by: Mike at September 14, 2004 08:52 AM
Mike, that's why I said they'll "keep harrassing" people and why I think a partial ban is too nuanced. The day after the full ban was proposed, I saw an orange-vester tell a woman that all photography was illegal, the same message that you heard when you've been detained--a clear sign that many won't bother to learn the full facts of the ban.
At best, this partial ban provides only the illusion of security, since even a partial ban isn't, practically speaking, enforceable. There's not enough personnel to stop everyone from photographing an equipment shack or a tunnel, and I'm not convinced that photographs of switches would be all that helpful to terrorists anyway.
Posted by: Dietsch at September 14, 2004 09:50 AM
And I guess I should explain what I mean by "too nuanced." Cops and MTA employees alike read "photography ban" in the Post and that's all they hear, and they assume it means everything's off limits. They don't care to take the time to read more deeply into the nuances of the law since it's far simpler to just harrass anyone with a camera.
Posted by: Dietsch at September 14, 2004 09:54 AM
Mike, could you post a copy of the relevant law, or point me to where I can find one? I think I'd like to carry a copy as well.
Thanks.
Posted by: Vidiot at September 15, 2004 12:33 AM
See Section 1050.9(c).
Posted by: Mike at September 15, 2004 08:42 AM
Much obliged.
Posted by: Vidiot at September 15, 2004 02:55 PM
Your photography is amazing.
your really capture the beauty of the city.
bravo
Posted by: vadergrrrl at September 16, 2004 08:56 PM
ive seen armrests and shelves before.
why the hell am i looking at this?
how did i get here?
and quit jocking ribity.
you arent cool for taking that photo.
why am i commenting?